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Paul



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

LeeHolteK6 wrote:
I'm behind MON 100%, he's the highest pedigree manager we have had down the Villa in many years.

ExMidlander - people have there reservations about you.

We lost a game, so what??? Get over yourself.


Ditto....

We can now win or draw a few games or whatever and when we lose again you can bring up another topic like this again to push your boring and stupid agenda....


YAWN!!! Rolling Eyes

Ps question still stands who would you replace him with....

Atkinson, Zola, Martinez, Strachan, and Pullis?

Or have you come up with a new name? Laughing
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Boz



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Unfortunately, this thread is going exactly as Exmid wants. He just provokes the responses with his mindless comments and then sits back and no doubt thinks he's a great WUM.

He's best totally ignored, same as any thread he start should be. No responses, he's not achieved what he wants and he can go back in whatever cave he watches Villa matches from.
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Chrisupnorth



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
LeeHolteK6 wrote:
I'm behind MON 100%, he's the highest pedigree manager we have had down the Villa in many years.

ExMidlander - people have there reservations about you.

We lost a game, so what??? Get over yourself.


Ditto....

We can now win or draw a few games or whatever and when we lose again you can bring up another topic like this again to push your boring and stupid agenda....


YAWN!!! Rolling Eyes

Ps question still stands who would you replace him with....

Atkinson, Zola, Martinez, Strachan, and Pullis?

Or have you come up with a new name? Laughing


Paul; much as ExMid ticks me off, a change of manager is inevitable at some point, so debating a potential successor is valid in my mind.

As I've stated in a previous post, I believe we need a manager with proven experience in the world game if we're to have any chance of attracting the big name players and/or qualify for the CL. None on the list you have suggested come close to fitting that bill, but I'm sure there will be many candidates out there (both in and out of work) who would jump at the chance to take on a club like ours. How about Rijkaard or Ranieri for starters?

PS. I know you only mentioned these names to make a point about ExMid's ill considered approach to this matter.
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Harry



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

The truth is there is a large body of fans, myself included, who have their doubts about MON and I think that started, certainly for me at least, with the January transfer window and our cataclysmic decline in form in the back end of last season.

I think I said something on this forum over the summer along the lines of this season being critical and the club should take stock at the end of the season as to whether MON is the right manager to take us forward having had four years in charge and plenty of money. That is still my opinion but at the moment MON has my full support despite my reservations about certain things such as tactics and formations. Last time I checked I was neither an experienced football manager nor a qualified coach.

I think that is a pretty reasonable position which I believe is probably shared by many fans. I don't yet have a view on a possible successor, should one be needed, but given the size and the success of the club I don't see getting a high quality manager as a problem.

For example I would suspect Ranieri would jump at the chance and were we to change I think we should aim very high. The likes of Strachan and Martinez are not big enough names in my opinion.

As for this thread I agree its a total wind designed to cause trouble so no change there.

I like many posters will be at VP tomorrow to support the team and continue the roller coaster ride that is too often part and parcel of supporting Villa. Its never going to be easy and there are never any guarantees - try talking to a Liverpool fan at the moment
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angelbear



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

harry agree with that but where
i dont like losing very much but mon does sometimes
seems to me a bit of clueness when he keeps
playing people leike jhesky who is
out of from and why wont he play reo
just because they had a agryment to me
that is where mon is childish he should
say to reo prove to me i was wrong to leave u out
and forgget about it and let him play
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Paul



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

angelbear wrote:
harry agree with that but where
i dont like losing very much but mon does sometimes
seems to me a bit of clueness when he keeps
playing people leike jhesky who is
out of from and why wont he play reo
just because they had a agryment to me
that is where mon is childish he should
say to reo prove to me i was wrong to leave u out
and forgget about it and let him play


One that is some really stupid management statements you made.

Two he not only played him but made him captain does that mean MON is still childish?

Three the Heskey situation is coming about because he ISNT playing

Rolling Eyes
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angelbear



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

paul mon is ok but where reo concern
yes reo maybe was wrong he pusinh reo
it should have been forgotton but it wasnt
mon drop him and now in my eyes reo prove o mon
he was wrong to do that we all new we would
miss that presnt that he has now
after this game we will see a lot more
of reo and the team come on the lads
hope he sells heskey
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wembley57er



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

AB agree with your sentiments re Heskey, it has been my position from the day he arrived. However on the other hand I think perhaps many are going overboard on their views re Hokey Cokey.

Yes, he did play well yesterday, but this was because he played within his own capabilities. There were no aimless runs forward where at the end he outruns his football brain and give the ball away, no attempted 50/60 yards passes that go anywhere except to its intended target. No he broke up play, laid off the ball to his supporting players, of whom yesterday there were many, and did not try to do anything to fancy. Remember also that most of the time Bolton by-passed the midfield!

Dont kid ourselves that NRC is a world beater, he is a player that gives you an option to defend well, he is not the answer to our midfield problem.

As regards his spat with MON, he was never going to win, there can only be one boss and it is not him. Had he not been sanctioned as he was, what message would it have sent out to the other players and staff at the club, anarchy. Had this been Fergie rather than MON, there would have been more than a boot thrown in his direction. If he has learned his lesson, good, he can stay, if not bye bye Rio!
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Paul



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Spot on Wembley!

Angel dont try and dig yourself out your veiws on management practices are laughable
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BubbleheadMK2



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

I see Darren Ferguson, who, like Strachan, is such a top manager, is now available lol. Embarassed
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garry



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

For the record, i think M'on is one of the best managers we have had. He acts in a commendable fashion, creating respect for the club and its fans. He has also built a side that is proudly british (something that i for one appreciate)

He supports and develops the playing group getting the best out of them. I feel after the wilderness years of Ellis, M'on is the best manager we could get and a lot better IMO than Moyes, benitez, allardyce, mccarthy, etc. He is a winner as a player and manager.

where he drives me crazy is the way he does things and the decisions he makes, but to be honest thats the beauty of football. everyone has an opinion.

I love NRC as a player but if you cross the manager, you deserve what you get. If that ultimately means he goes, then i think its the villa's loss but the club proudly marches on.

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canzy77



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

BubbleheadMK2 wrote:
I see Darren Ferguson, who, like Strachan, is such a top manager, is now available lol. Embarassed


Funny post

Those were exactly my thoughts when I heard he'd been fired this morning! I hope exmid is writing to Randy about this.
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