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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: matt Report this post Reply with quote

Matty my point is meant post this season.

Whilst its not a guarantee that even 40m can keep us up I would gather moving forward...Plus 40m in the summer this spending will move us quickly into a position to compete with you.

80m in 6 months aint to be sniffed at.

Who is to say there isnt more to spend. After all if I had 100m to spend I would probably say we had less too.

Relegation is a potential setback but you can already tell they are willing to bankroll the minimum of upper midtable in the premier.

I would guess wages structures wont be a problem either.....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Are you really as thick as you sound?

I never once said I could remember those triumphs in 81 and 82. Read my post....

One things for sure I'm glad you have some investment - you have needed it for a long time and your current set up and infrastructure is not up to Premiership standard. I still feel relegation could have a massive impact on CY's anticipation with his plans. £20+m spent in Jan - on whom? Attracting players will be difficult. We're 8 games into the season and your star player is yet to score for you. IF you do sign anyone who's haldf decent (doubtful) and you get relegated - are these players happy to play in the Championship next season? i.e. Damien Duff example.

I wouldn't get ahead of yourselves girls. I do hope you stay up as it's a better season for us villans looking out for two results at a weekend rather than just one, but I do feel if you spend £20m+ in Jan and you get relegated CY & Co might be in disbelief and tighten the purse strings dramatically!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: sound Report this post Reply with quote

LeeHolteK6 wrote:
Are you really as thick as you sound?
I never once said I could remember those triumphs in 81 and 82. Read my post....

One things for sure I'm glad you have some investment - you have needed it for a long time and your current set up and infrastructure is not up to Premiership standard. I still feel relegation could have a massive impact on CY's anticipation with his plans. £20+m spent in Jan - on whom? Attracting players will be difficult. We're 8 games into the season and your star player is yet to score for you. IF you do sign anyone who's haldf decent (doubtful) and you get relegated - are these players happy to play in the Championship next season? i.e. Damien Duff example.

I wouldn't get ahead of yourselves girls. I do hope you stay up as it's a better season for us villans looking out for two results at a weekend rather than just one, but I do feel if you spend £20m+ in Jan and you get relegated CY & Co might be in disbelief and tighten the purse strings dramatically!



You aint that bright a spark I see you have retreated to the comfort of your own forum...GOOD MOVE!!

Last time I checked the words that I type DO NOT CARRY ANY SOUND Laughing Laughing Laughing

PS They may well tighten the strings but if they buy talent there will be no pressure to sell whilst relegated look at Newcastle even with their terrible situation they look strong.

Judging by the bargain tickets that will be available Yeung has ear marked initial financial losses over some time.....Basically financially 1 step back for a few forward.

Far East population aimed at around 2 billion.

If 0.1% of that population spends £3 per month on us be it BLUESWORLD, Merchandise or whatever its still a drammatic increase to revenue.

Do some research on the growth of the chinese economy and on how NBA has exploded to the tune of 1.5 billion per annum in revenue.....

Yeung also controls a media platform which is handy when you want to brainwash some impressionable young kids. JUST LIKE SKY SPORTS DO ON BEHALF OF MAN UTD!


You keep on fighting NFL, NBA and Baseball and you wont get far.

The Beijing Olympics have proven that they hate being second best and how quick they can achieve domination in all sports...So feel free to mock the influx of chinese players too.

The futures bright, its blue and white....

Good luck trying to rain on our parade Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

LeeHolteK6 wrote:
Are you really as thick as you sound?

I never once said I could remember those triumphs in 81 and 82. Read my post....

One things for sure I'm glad you have some investment - you have needed it for a long time and your current set up and infrastructure is not up to Premiership standard. I still feel relegation could have a massive impact on CY's anticipation with his plans. £20+m spent in Jan - on whom? Attracting players will be difficult. We're 8 games into the season and your star player is yet to score for you. IF you do sign anyone who's haldf decent (doubtful) and you get relegated - are these players happy to play in the Championship next season? i.e. Damien Duff example.

I wouldn't get ahead of yourselves girls. I do hope you stay up as it's a better season for us villans looking out for two results at a weekend rather than just one, but I do feel if you spend £20m+ in Jan and you get relegated CY & Co might be in disbelief and tighten the purse strings dramatically!



Lee does it hurt that bad to think that we might be in a position to kick on, yes we need to make sure we are in with a shout come Jan, and i think we will be mainly due to a number of poor teams (us included) Yes it could all go t*ts up, but on the same hand it could be the making of us... something that hurts you imo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Not been unthoughtfull, but Lee, can you not take your argument with these noses over to the dark side and free this board up for Villa Fans.

Ok we ain't lovers of Blouse and all that is Blouse, but one must remember Lee, a new chairman does not always mean a better business or a bigger business, and you need to also realise, that in these times of financial difficulty for the every day working bloke, football has gone beyond their means at this current time for a large percentage of supporters.

Can you also remember we have an important match tomorrow, which if we can get a win or a draw in will cloud over the media hype of what is happening down the road.

And as I said before, I hope they do survive, and even if they do, VILLA are light years ahead in Stadium/ Squad / Training Ground and what's all ready been won in the past and what we will hopefully be wining in the very near future.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

forevaavillan1 wrote:
Not been unthoughtfull, but Lee, can you not take your argument with these noses over to the dark side and free this board up for Villa Fans.

Ok we ain't lovers of Blouse and all that is Blouse, but one must remember Lee, a new chairman does not always mean a better business or a bigger business, and you need to also realise, that in these times of financial difficulty for the every day working bloke, football has gone beyond their means at this current time for a large percentage of supporters.

Can you also remember we have an important match tomorrow, which if we can get a win or a draw in will cloud over the media hype of what is happening down the road.

And as I said before, I hope they do survive, and even if they do, VILLA are light years ahead in Stadium/ Squad / Training Ground and what's all ready been won in the past and what we will hopefully be wining in the very near future.



It could be light years away or it may not be as far away as you think!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

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forevaavillan1 wrote:
Not been unthoughtfull, but Lee, can you not take your argument with these noses over to the dark side and free this board up for Villa Fans.

Ok we ain't lovers of Blouse and all that is Blouse, but one must remember Lee, a new chairman does not always mean a better business or a bigger business, and you need to also realise, that in these times of financial difficulty for the every day working bloke, football has gone beyond their means at this current time for a large percentage of supporters.

Can you also remember we have an important match tomorrow, which if we can get a win or a draw in will cloud over the media hype of what is happening down the road.

And as I said before, I hope they do survive, and even if they do, VILLA are light years ahead in Stadium/ Squad / Training Ground and what's all ready been won in the past and what we will hopefully be wining in the very near future.



It could be light years away or it may not be as far away as you think!!!



Reesa! Its great to have something to grasp onto. And good on ya, but its not good to dare to Dream.

And at this moment in time it is still just a pipe dream and that is all ( Fact)

P.s I hope you beat **** anal.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

tilton1875 - some good points raised however I'm not sure the USA which has a far more affluent population per person than China have added anything significant branding wise to villa's balance sheets - If I were you I wouldn't expect anything out of China unless you sign a Chinese player then you might shift some merchandise. All of which has little contributiion to the real turnover a football club sees in the current day.

They all wear United shirts out there!

I for one are glad this season Midlands footy can boast yourselves and Wolves in the Prem, I'd love to see Derby, Forest and the Baggies and of course our old pals Cov who we relegated all up in the top flight, it would be emense and away games would be brilliant!!

There's no doubt this guy is only a beneficiary to your beloved club, just be wary If I were you. It takes time. Look at what happened with the Villa when we were taken over.... It's not an overnight job and if you don't start getting some significant points on your board then you will be going into xmas and the transfer window panicking that you might of blown your big chance. I suppose we can only wait and see. I do wish you good luck though, it's about time you guys had a break... it's been pretty **** for a long time for you. But what do you expect. It's never going to be the Villa! Guitar
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

forevaavillan1 wrote:
REESA wrote:
forevaavillan1 wrote:
Not been unthoughtfull, but Lee, can you not take your argument with these noses over to the dark side and free this board up for Villa Fans.

Ok we ain't lovers of Blouse and all that is Blouse, but one must remember Lee, a new chairman does not always mean a better business or a bigger business, and you need to also realise, that in these times of financial difficulty for the every day working bloke, football has gone beyond their means at this current time for a large percentage of supporters.

Can you also remember we have an important match tomorrow, which if we can get a win or a draw in will cloud over the media hype of what is happening down the road.

And as I said before, I hope they do survive, and even if they do, VILLA are light years ahead in Stadium/ Squad / Training Ground and what's all ready been won in the past and what we will hopefully be wining in the very near future.



It could be light years away or it may not be as far away as you think!!!



Reesa! Its great to have something to grasp onto. And good on ya, but its not good to dare to Dream.

And at this moment in time it is still just a pipe dream and that is all ( Fact)

P.s I hope you beat **** anal.



Why is it a pipe dream, outside of the top 5 the remaining teams can finish anywhere in the league,so why with 80m can we not aim for 10th up to 6th?

Yes we would need to spend a lot on stadium and training ground to get near you but its alot closer now than it was 2 months ago
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Reesa - don't get ahead of yourself mate - come on! that's some friendly advice ok!

The Premiership with investment is not as simple as it looks!

There's some decent teams like Everton/Bolton/Blackburn that have had little investment over the last decade but yet have reached the highs and lows of European footy and relegation fights.

On the other hand there's teams who've had massive investment like Newcastle and Spurs and have hardly got anywhere - in fact one relegated. This time last year Spurs were bottom of the table. It's not as simple as it looks Reesa.

IF I were you, Id be satisfied with a top 14 finish next season and survival this season. IF you look any further than that then your expectations are too high and you are likely to be dissapointed!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

What a rubbish thread......

Here's the facts....

They have been brought and the new owner said 20 - 40 million for the fees AND wages in January then the same similar figure for the summer. The key to that is the and wages part i.e. if a player is signed on 40k a week on a 4 year deal that is 8.32 million per year suddenly if that player costs 8 million (which dont buy you much now) thats 16m gone. It all depends on that part of his statement.

There will be more investment in the playing staff and thats great for their club however they still have the same manager who I predict won't be there in 12 months a new manager is needed too realisitcally Sven would be perfect for that job realisitcially if he leaves Notts Country (look what he did for Man City & his record).

It is all if's but's and maybe's though so why dont the noses come back in a year to say what they want to say as they are currently likely to get egg on their faces.

Also one last thing I read a comment about everything under 5th being up for grabs.....

Funniest statement I have heard in a long time that one.......

Aston Villa
Tottenham
Everton

those three clubs have a far better team and squad then any of the clubs below 8th so anywhere from 9th down is for grabs for a team like yourself over the comming years.

If you want to argue with that your fighting a losing battle as look at the squads of those three teams then look at your own and think how much money is it going to take to buy the same quality of players in the same amounts, how much are those three teams going to invest in the team in that amount of time it will take to catch up?

And so on!

Congratulations to the blues on getting the same budget any other top half team has as a minimum Laughing

Now please take your petty squables back onto your own board it bores most of us
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: United Report this post Reply with quote

They all wear united shirts out there?

Is that a fact?

If so I assume united have sold aroun 2 billion shirts X 40 quid = 80 billion!!!

In relation to tapping into the chinese market via players...

In the next 5 to 10 years we can hand pick all the best juniors they have and bring them over....IT JUST TAKES ONE to be on a par with someone like Ji Sung Park and the revenue will spriral.

A few years back I remember a snooker player from China his name escapes me but when he played in the world championship the chinese tv audience was something barmy like 300 million. They are a very patriotic nation.

Its all conjecture I suppose but.... Having lived under the apathetic cloud of Sully & Gold with their dream of 17th whilst spending 10 million in total you can imagine why we are allowing ourselves to savour the moment.

The beauty of this is the previous board have seen fit to make your position as top dogs in the city a formality...

Yeung as you can imagine doesn't share that same pathetic ambition
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Hmm.our crowds seem to be slipping away,dissapointed we cant fill our ground against Chelski tommorow! and Man Citeh was not great! where have our fans gone? Sad
just hoping there is a late surge for tickets tommorow to prove me wrong Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

If this is intended as a WUM thread its working a treat as the 'fish' are biting like mad!

I think the Mods should move this thread to the Blues forum as that is its natural home.

To add my views I thought CY chose his words very carefully, he promised enough but not too much, I tend to agree with Paul in that he was careful to include wages in his numbers, echos of good old Doug there.

As for China itself the theoretical demand is very high but the big four already work SE Asia very diligently and have developed large fan bases there. Its not impossible for Blues to develop a big fan base but I think they would have to have a number of Chinese players for that to work but that seems to be the way that CY is taking it.

To be be honest I shall watch developments with interest. Its hard miles to build a consistently successful club that can realistically challenge the top four as Villa have found and it takes big big money as Man City are finding.

The only words of wisdom I would offer is something said on the BBC website a couple of years ago by one of the football academics, 'never buy the second club in any town or city' Shocked

Oh and Park at Man U is Korean not Chinese!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: sound Report this post Reply with quote

tilton1875 wrote:

You aint that bright a spark I see you have retreated to the comfort of your own forum...GOOD MOVE!!

Last time I checked the words that I type DO NOT CARRY ANY SOUND Laughing Laughing Laughing

PS They may well tighten the strings but if they buy talent there will be no pressure to sell whilst relegated look at Newcastle even with their terrible situation they look strong.

Judging by the bargain tickets that will be available Yeung has ear marked initial financial losses over some time.....Basically financially 1 step back for a few forward.

Far East population aimed at around 2 billion.

If 0.1% of that population spends £3 per month on us be it BLUESWORLD, Merchandise or whatever its still a drammatic increase to revenue.

Do some research on the growth of the chinese economy and on how NBA has exploded to the tune of 1.5 billion per annum in revenue.....

Yeung also controls a media platform which is handy when you want to brainwash some impressionable young kids. JUST LIKE SKY SPORTS DO ON BEHALF OF MAN UTD!


You keep on fighting NFL, NBA and Baseball and you wont get far.

The Beijing Olympics have proven that they hate being second best and how quick they can achieve domination in all sports...So feel free to mock the influx of chinese players too.

The futures bright, its blue and white....

Good luck trying to rain on our parade Laughing


I'll let you know if I lose any sleep over any of this tomorrow morning....
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